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Sun, 13 May 2012 14:51:26 +0000

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Mon, 07 May 2012 14:10:11 +0000

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Thu, 09 Feb 2012 14:07:51 +0000

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By: bobcargill

bobcargill — Fri, 07 Oct 2011 14:50:25 +0000

ok, thanx lynne. so as long as a secular state provides documentation of a legal marriage, the mormon church will accept it as valid. i wasn’t aware of that.
thanx again, bc

By: Lynne Cropper

Lynne Cropper — Fri, 07 Oct 2011 14:39:27 +0000

Yes, certainly that. I am unfamiliar with what makes a Muslim marriage a Muslim marriage. So whatever documentation given at the time of marriage that legitimizes the marriage would be sufficient.

By: bobcargill

bobcargill — Fri, 07 Oct 2011 14:33:55 +0000

thanx, lynne, for the clarification.
one question: what is the ‘proper documentation’ to which you referred in the last scenario? a state marriage license?
thanx, bc.

By: Lynne Cropper

Lynne Cropper — Fri, 07 Oct 2011 14:28:02 +0000

Yes–they would consider them married. Here is good example of how much respect the Church has for marriage outside of the temple. I have a dear friend who converted to Mormonism in his life. His wife did not convert, furthermore, she wanted nothing to do with the Church at all. My friend is fully active in the Church, holds the office of high priest in the Melchizedek priesthood, and has held many responsible callings within his congregation. Several years ago he became a worker in the temple (as opposed to just being a participant in the temple rites). This is a sacred assignment and he took it on with gusto. A few years into his service he and his wife divorced. When this happened, he was told that he would not be allowed to continuing working in the temple for seven years. He was allowed to attend as participant but not as a worker/facilitator of the rites. He was devastated but faithfully waited the seven years and is now a worker in the temple once again. Marriage is a sacred institution and divorce is a serious matter to the Church. I can give you more examples of this type of understanding within the Mormon Church.
While some members of the Church lazily refer to it as a temple marriage, it is not. It is a sealing ceremony. For those who are members, in most parts of the world it can count as both a legal marriage and a sealing. But there are many municipalities across the world who do not recognize the Church officiator has having the authority to perform a marriage. In these cases the couple will be married civilly first and then sealed afterward.You cannot be sealed to your spouse unless you have been legally and lawfully wedded. So, lets say that, hypothetically, the Muslim couple decided to convert to the Mormon faith and after waiting the required time of one year, decided and were worthy to be sealed in the temple. They would not be remarried first–they already are married, the fact that it was a Muslim ceremony is irrelevant. After showing proper documentation they would be sealed by one who has the authority to seal marriages beyond the grave.
Hope this clarifies things. Happy to discuss this anytime.

By: bobcargill

bobcargill — Fri, 07 Oct 2011 03:23:08 +0000

hi lynne, thanx for the comment.
point of clarification: do mormons accept a muslim marriage as a legit marriage? i’m not talking about the state, but within the church. if two muslims are married in a traditional muslim wedding, would the mormon church accept that as an acceptible marriage in the church?
thanx, bc