transcript of tamar yonah’s interview of copper scroll project director jim barfield

Jim Barfield, leader of the 'Copper Scroll Project' testing a metal detector in preparation for his search for the treasures of the Copper Scroll

Jim Barfield, leader of the 'Copper Scroll Project,' testing a metal detector in preparation for his search for the treasures of the Copper Scroll.

the following is a transcript of this week’s (august 23, 2009) ‘weekend edition‘ on arutz sheva’s israel national radio. host tamar yonah interviews copper scroll project director jim barfield. you can download an mp4 version of the interview to listen along while you read the transcript here.

i shall comment further on this matter tomorrow. for now, here’s what jim barfield told tamar yonah.

=== BEGIN TRANSCRIPT ===

0:05 [Tamar Yonah]: Well can you imagine what would happen if in this secular new world order-type world that we live in, a world where we’re supposed to be so enlightened and religion is old hat and old fashioned and primitive, what would happen if, just if, the Bible was proven to be true? What would happen if the Ark of the Covenant and treasures from the First and Second temple were discovered? Well, we have with us joining us now, Jim Barfield, and Jim is the Director of the Copper Scroll Project. And you can go to his website while we’re doing this interview and check it out, it’s called, it’s at www dot copper hyphen scroll hyphen project dot com. Copper Scroll Project with a hyphen in between each word. Copper Scroll Pa-, Project dot com. And you can go there and look at some of the, um, things that he’s done so far in trying to do an archaeological dig, to try to find th-, the treasures that the Copper Scroll of the Dead Sea Scrolls is telling everybody maybe where these treasures are. Here to tell us more about that we have again joining us Jim Barfield. Hi there, Jim.

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dr. robert cargill discusses the curious protests surrounding the dead sea scrolls exhibit in toronto

The Toronto Royal Ontario Museum (ROM)

The Toronto Royal Ontario Museum (ROM)

bible and interpretation has published my latest editorial entitled ‘on the curious protests of the dead sea scrolls exhibition in toronto‘ in the ‘in my view’ section of their website. in the article, i discuss the political reasons behind the protests at the dead sea scrolls exhibit. i conclude the following:

The Toronto ROM protests are nothing but a drummed up political show, and one, I might add, which was curiously absent when the scrolls toured the United States. Pro-Palestinian protesters in Toronto are misusing the Dead Sea Scrolls exhibition as a venue to make their claims to anyone who will point a camera in their direction.

to read the whole article, click here.

the curious motives behind the protests of dead sea scrolls exhibitions

A fragment (4Q51) of a Dead Sea Scroll

A fragment (4Q51) of a Dead Sea Scroll

you must read this excellent editorial on the drummed up protests surrounding the dead sea scrolls exhibit in toronto. some groups are claiming that the hebrew and aramaic documents belong to palestinians.

the article states:

An odd assortment of groups are protesting the exhibit on the grounds that the scrolls are stolen artifacts and really belong to Arabs, not Jews. Yes, you read that correctly. Hebrew manuscripts of the Jewish Bible that were written centuries before Muhammad was born are, apparently, Muslim property.

the editorial goes on to point out:

…there is a parallel effort to deny the Jewish people’s ancestral connection to the Holy Land. The idea is to delegitimize Israel by denying the indigenous rights of Jews.

indeed, archaeology is used as a weapon by extreme groups on both sides of the israeli/palestinian conflict. but what do palestinians want with jewish documents again (or would they be jordanian documents)??

besides, some of the scrolls from the dead sea are already in arab hands – in the jordan archaeological museum in amman. i don’t see the palestinians protesting the return of the copper scroll, do you? (then again, it is only the copper scroll…)

this protest is all one big drummed up political show, and one i might add that was curiously absent when the dss toured the us. which makes me wonder: what/who started this protest rolling in canada? is this simply a spontaneous new protest by palestinians against the canadians (a battle they forgot to fight at the numerous american exhibitions)? or, was this protest perhaps instigated by ardent, published supporters of the west bank’s claim of qumran (and its archaeological remains), who may have sent letters to certain political entities raising questions about this ‘controversy?’

on the insignificance and the abuse of the copper scroll

Jim Barfield, leader of the 'Copper Scroll Project' testing a metal detector in preparation for his search for the treasures of the Copper Scroll

Jim Barfield, leader of the 'Copper Scroll Project' testing a metal detector in preparation for his search for the treasures of the Copper Scroll

i have a new op-ed feature on the new ‘in my view‘ section of the bible and interpretation website entitled ‘on the insignificance and the abuse of the copper scroll.’ in the piece, i examine the copper scroll, its history, and discuss recent abuses of it to sell books and raise money. I highlight  a retired firefighter turned amateur ‘ark-eologist’ who claims to have ‘unlocked the secret’ to the copper scroll, and who believes it to describe the treasures from the first(!) temple (a la vendyl jones).

give it a read here.

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